Exegesis Volume 07 Issue #112

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From: "Jan Sar"
Subject: [e] Re: exegesis Digest V7 #111


Exegesis Digest Sun, 22 Dec 2002


From: "Jan Sar"
Subject: [e] Re: exegesis Digest V7 #111
Date: Sun, 22 Dec 2002 17:38:57 +0000

Just some Christmas thoughts… There may perhaps be readers who would interpret exegesis as a sort of philosophical exercise of a couple of distinguished scientists. The average, so-called “practicing astrologer” may not feel a need for such a discussion because he or she does not see any immediate “practical” application. It is important however, that such place exists and that does involve thinking process, so much needed in this area of interest and activity. Astrology, by many, is accepted “as it is,” without any questioning. A few of astrologers bother with asking question: “Why?” This person who in the first place should ask this sacramental “why” is the “practicing astrologer.” – I have to add from my own personal experience (of the practicing astrologer), that once you ask, you keep asking and… changing pseudo-rules of astrological dogma, because such does not exist.

Jan Sar

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 > >From: Listar
 > >Reply-To: Exegesis List
 > >To: exegesis digest users
 > >Subject: exegesis Digest V7 #111
 > >Date: Sat, 21 Dec 2002 02:00:01 -0500 (EST)
 > >
 > >exegesis Digest Fri, 20 Dec 2002 Volume: 07 Issue: 111
 > >
 > >In This Issue:
 > >#1: From: "startiming1"
 > >Subject: [e] Symbols and Proofs
 > >
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 > >
 > >From: "startiming1"
 > >Subject: [e] Symbols and Proofs
 > >Date: Fri, 20 Dec 2002 12:25:40 -0700
 > >
 > >Ah exegesis is as exegesis does... i would love to see that
 > >origination chart! First of all you discard the traditional
 > >ways
 > >of understanding and doing astrology. Then you scrap like
 > >hungry dogs over what is left.
 > >
 > >It is obvious even to the physicists today that we all share
 > >an electrochemical soup in which we move and think.
 > >All agree that this soup is constantly being modified
 > >by what anyone could honestly call cosmic forces.
 > >
 > >When its articulated, most also find it comfortable to
 > >realize
 > >humans have a strong drive to give MEANINGS to
 > >everything that touches them. Astrology is about the
 > >process of giving meaning to our experiences of the cosmic.
 > >
 > >As a PRACTICING astrologer, its important to know what
 > >meanings might resonate and be helpful towards a better life
 > >(my definitions or the clients). Not every meaning is usable
 > >by every person. On the other hand, each person may need
 > >articulated meanings in key areas. (Such as 'verticality'.)
 > >
 > >Thus the astrologer doesn't just look at what happens by
 > >itself in the wild population of humans, but at what is good
 > >in relation to the client/situation at hand.
 > >
 > >Incidentally i have no doubt that Tyl as a small collection
 > >of
 > >case studies with Saturn conjunct Neptune or that Rudhyar
 > >had observed various configurations with the midheaven
 > >and how they worked in life stories. To be useful these
 > >examples must be well known to the astrologer.. not the
 > >fabricated bios of celebrities.
 > >
 > >(Confidentiality is required from the honorable
 > >practitioner. To SAY that one has a group of charts is to
 > >be besieged by any number of persons eager for you to
 > >betray the people who have trusted you with their
 > >personal situations, feelings, and secret actions. Thus i
 > >never share my cases and always suggest that others
 > >test my observation in their own working territory.)
 > >
 > >But observations are only the beginning. What the client
 > >expects are RECOMMENDATIONS.
 > >
 > >Recommendations are proved or disproved in the client's
 > >life
 > >
 > >Recklessly yours,
 > >Jane Axtell
 > >http://www.stariming.net
 > >
 > >
 > >-----From the Original Message -----
 > >"Dennis Frank"
 > >Quotes and agrees with the following:
 > >
 > >>In the preceding examples Tyl uses "ambition"
 > >metaphorically,
 > >>Rudhyar does the same with "verticality".
 > >>Tyl should have collected a set of people with
 > >>Saturn conjunct Neptune, Rudhyar should have collected
 > >>and systematically compared people with planets
 > >>conjunct the MC. If he had OBSERVED that their
 > >>spirituality differed depending which planet was on the MC,
 > >>that would be evidence that the MC is in some way
 > >>involved with spirituality.
 > >
 > >
 > >
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 > >
 > >End of exegesis Digest V7 #111
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