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Dear Moderator, I don't understand this and can't get anything to download when I click on the http//: address. What am I doing wrong ?

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From: "Jan Sar"
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Date: Sat, 24 Aug 2002 23:28:34 +0000

...I am experiencing difficulty in connecting with exegesis... Here again I am trying to send some comments. This time not as an attachement but directly as amail... Jan sar Skapski

I am sending this note at the suggestion of Patrice Guinard… In the over thirty years of my continuous involvement and practice in astrology I have not, as a rule, participated in any ‘open’ discussions related to this subject. Looking around, I feel it would be a futile effort in all its aspects. Consequently, I am not certain why I am sending these comments, maybe because I still have on my bookshelf a “Recent Advances…” or maybe because I can relate to the “inner conflict” of some of disputants of these pages (?). Years ago, since becoming familiar with Gauquelins’ research and while I admire their persistence and effort, my own conclusions were: “Why are they all are barking up the wrong tree?” – Why? - Astrologers should not only be “sympathetic” toward a client, astrologers should also be able to use their minds to think independently from all outside suggestion. One not only shouldn’t say that “Sun in Aries means so and so…” one should first ask: Why? (And maybe ask also: Why should I even take into consideration zodiac signs or whatever else?) The fact that the popular literature is full of repetitious statements about sun signs, houses, trines and then like, does not in any way validate any given formula, make it true or even close to true. Maybe we should not ask: “How many people born with Sun in Scorpio are wearing dark glasses?” but ask if this is at all relevant, relevant in our present day, or relevant at all. We know so little about astrology, and all that has been written, published and printed on this subject we can not really call astrology… Astrology was reinvented, and not only once, and was each time reinvented poorly. And, how much do we know about the roots, how much about the beginning? What beginning? Only recently we have a couple of enthusiasts competing amongst themselves researching astrologys’ past, or …whatever it is left from this past. We may say that this is a rare occurrence when professionals do such work… - And immediately we have “followers.” But what kind of followers? The same kind of people who are looking not for knowledge, but for a new trend, for “instant magic,” for something that would effortlessly qualify them to become overnight wizards… For most what is the use of digging in the past if one cannot find there a magic formula? The purpose of becoming familiar with some of the knowledge of our ancestors is to learn about the early evolution of astrology. To do this it becomes most important to understand the environment in which astrology was developed and practiced. Astrology always relates to life, and as life is ever-changing …so must astrology. Since the beginning of the written word, and even more since the word became multi-duplicated by Johannes Gutenberg, whatever was written suggested an almost a religious content… and this is perhaps an another pitfall of astrology… I, myself, do not believe in words… In my life in astrology (at my age I can say this), I began refusing to accept any of, the so called, astrological axioms till I could find out “why and how.” Over the following years this resulted in a “bare bone astrology,” a sort of aging Christmas tree, stripped from all its decorations… But it did work! However to continue this kind of effort is beyond the capacity (and life expectancy) of one person. Yes, there is always something, a little something, one can find in the work of others. Unfortunately we all work in isolation. I found out, that working only with planets (no extra planets!) and a couple of harmonic divisions (you may call this: aspects) gives me the sufficient amount of needed information. I frequently do not pay any attention to zodiac (!), to houses, all “soft” aspects… and so follow, many related particulars. And, yes, I am using midpoints. But here is an area that is also in need of clarification. Midpoints do not make a “super chart!” A lack of understanding of the purpose and the meaning of midpoints (or of, so called in the past, oriental and occidental planets) may confuse… Planets (or points) besieging (surrounding) a central one, compose the definition of the individual character of such central planet. For example: Mercury between Venus – Saturn (D = F/J) continues to be ONLY Mercury. The difference is that this Mercury may influence one’s mind in a creative (Venus) but at the same in a conscious, sober (Saturn) way, - and so on… Or we may say your Pluto is your Pluto and I have mine. Midpoints do not increase the number of points in the chart – they only define more precisely existing planets and expose the individual character of such planet as belonging specifically to a particular horoscope, to the actual person. And the fact is, that this way of approaching midpoints may result in a very complicated interlocking combination of planets within a horoscope. Well, this is THE ART of the astrologer, to find out how all these may work together. After all we are not paper cut-outs, but more often very complicated human beings. Jan-Sar Skapski astrol. ind.

(A short biographical note: Jan–Sar (Skapski), a Canadian astrologer born in Poland, is the founder of the School of Cognitive Astrology, which originated in 1977 in Vancouver, Canada. He has been extensively involved in research and teaching for over 25 years. He recently (1994) established “AstroContact,” the Polish Canadian astrological information exchange, and for last eight years has divided his time between Canada and Europe. He is the visiting lecturer at the Academy of Astrobiology in Warsaw, Lodz and Bialystok and teaches at the School of the Alternative Psychology in Poznan, in Poland. Jan–Sar is the past president of the British Columbia Astrological Society and the past editor of the quarterly astrological journal “The Ecliptic” (1970 – 1985). The Axiomatic Study Group was his research project giving the background for the present work. He is an honorary member of the Polish Association of Astrologers in Poznan.

The School of Cognitive Astrology is based on the idea of developing a conscious approach to planetary influences, an optimal development of individuality and of personal potential. The method he applies makes extensive use of “planetary harmonics” and in-depth analysis of midpoint structures, and harmonic.) cycles.

Canada - 1238 Premier St., North Vancouver, BC, V7J-2H4 tel: (604) 987-6237 Poland - ul. Lubicz32/8, 31-512 Krakow, tel: (012) 431-1036

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