|Exegesis Volume 5 Issue #37
Exegesis Digest Tue, 11 Jul 2000
Date: Mon, 10 Jul 2000 12:32:37 -0700
From: Armando Rey
Subject: RE: Exegesis Digest V5 #36
Hi all, hi Patrice, I am new to the list, and being my first post I would like to shortly introduct myself stating that astrology, tarot, and dreamwork are my passions and the objet of my professional practice for 20 years, I am deeply interested in the foundations of the type of knowledge proper to the symbolic tools. I have published a book and several articles in spanish magazines.
Recently I read in your Manifesto your conception of Matrix-Based Reason. There are some questions that arouse from it.
First, I do not understand why you aply this concept to Astrology only. Its is my impression that everything you say about astrological knowledge could be applied also to other symbolic structures as Tarot, Kabalah, etc. Extending your conception as it should be done, imho, I would read it as the following equation:
Matrix-Based cognition (or thouht) = Symbolic cognition (or thought)
I also would discuss your theoretical need of postulating an inner psyche, when inner and outer are, imho, mere concepts that separate something that can not be separated,in theory or in practice, to approach the phenomenology of symbolic (or astrologic) events or manifestations.
You postulate: "The world of facts...make their appearance to consciousness only thanks to the existence of a prior, internal, psychic world, which receives and models them..."
or you state that
"The function of Astrology is to determine the structural laws of interiority..."
Astrology comes from very ancient times as you well are aware,inner and outer are concepts that reason uses for building our contemporary myths. Psyche itself, as a result of this distinction, is a theoretical construct that needs to be criticized, because Astrology thought does not need it, despite our modern astrological discourse that uses it a lot, as psychology does.
I refer to the work of Castaneda and his conception of the "assemblage point", a concept that explains, inho, much better that psyche the relation between consciousness and the totality of the being, and in another level between man and the Universe.
Jung himself said that archetypes belong to the sphere of the pshycoid, a realm that is beyond inner or outer artificial compartiments. Planets, signs and houses, tarot cards and dreams belong to it, to a perpetual flux of the universe that we experience as inner or outer or something else according to the level of our counsciousness.
With afection, Armando
> Exegesis Digest Mon, 26 Jun 2000 Volume 5 Issue 34
> From: Patrice Guinard
> I recognize that the theoretical case could be improved, and I could let
> the attempt to a stronger than me. But, I point about this: none
> astrological matter is convincing...for the modern thought, because the
> astrological reasoning is different from the modern scientific one. I
> was confronted with this problem with my thesis. And I've forged a
> concept, Matrix-Based Reason (French: "Raison matricielle"), which could
> explain this situation, and also which could explain why astrology is
> definitely not accepted in academy, universities... Other thing that the
> Jungian synchronicity (see my critics about it on CURA's site)
> The use of Matrix-Based Reason is essentially "TO MAKE" astrology, and
> not going on "interpreting charts" (and, as doing it, finding nothing
> else that is already obviously known). THE PLURAL, MATRIX-BASED
> REASONING IS THE REAL TRUE ASTROLOGICAL ACT. And not "interpreting
> charts" (an application), or doing predictions (a pretension). It's my
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