Exegesis Volume 3 Issue #38

From: jtunney
Subject: Re: Exegesis Digest V3 #37

Exegesis Digest Tue, 05 May 1998

Date: Mon, 04 May 1998 18:43:24 -0400
From: jtunney
To: Exegesis
Subject: Re: Exegesis Digest V3 #37

I've been watching this argument re astrology and psychology for some time and have never been able to come up with a message short enough that people will read it. Now maybe I have a chance. Thank you, Mary!

In my opinion, a marriage must exist between astrology and psychology (or psychiatry or sociology or any other human study) because that's the whole point of astrology -- to explain us and our environment to ourselves in order to give us the greatest amount of freedom to achieve our goals. What else?

Mary, you said, " astrology deals with everything that exists in time -- including weather patterns and the mass psyche. It operates at a level below individual psyche, on the plane of sun spots and crop cycles. We have to raise our consciousness to percieve its operation -- then we see it's pervasive. The model is like the oriental concept of chi -- energy forces eddying around and through us, sustaining us and defining certain traits and events.

You may be perfectly right about that, but why do we want to know about weather patterns, the mass psyche, sun spots, and crop cycles? Because they are what enable human beings to live on this planet in some kind of harmony and safety. Why do we study horary and mundane astrology and business cycles? Because human beings want the answers to their every day dilemmas. Why else?

To assume that astrology exists by itself and is waiting for us to discover its secrets, to me, is too mystical and takes away some of the possibility that we have control over our own actions. Rather, I would say that we create the symbolism of astrology as one of our means of delving into our own humanity, wherever we live and whoever we are, to help us understand our world. We create astrology as a language in the same way that we create language -- as a representation of our intent, desires, and wishes. And all of this we do because we are human beings and we want to know about ourselves and our world. That's why we have to know about human functioning, as you have said, and that's why we continue to look for all kinds of symbol sets to help us learn that, including astrology, psychology, mythology, and even some of the new age goodies. It's all a search and we're all in it together.

 > Nothing can be done, certainly, until we have some idea what it is we're actually studying. Time itself? The shared energy soup of the universe?

What difference does it make if we know about time or the shared energy soup of the universe or not? The only difference it makes is to us as human beings and how we will live our lives as a result of it or how those cycles help us to explain our own cycles and, therefore, predict what is likely to occur in the future. For that reason, we, as astrologers had better pay lots of attention to learning about how humans operate, be that through psychology, psychiatry, sociology, etc., etc.

You're right, Mary. All we really need to care about is if astrology works, but it will work best the more we understand about its main object of examination -- ourselves.

Jan Tunney


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