Exegesis Volume 2 Issue #22

Exegesis Digest Tue, 06 May 1997

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Date: 5 May 97 16:31:54
From: William M. Gordon
Subject: Re: Exegesis Digest V2 #21

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Proposition: Since PTSB (Ptolemy's Theory of Seeds and Beginnings)
does not apply to every instance of chart-making, and since PTSB
otherwise does not gain astrology ANY advantage whatsoever, we
should toss PTSB out of any theory of astrology.

[reply]

Question #1:
I agree there are some problems, but what then would be the rationale for the birthchart?

Observation #1:
I have also wondered if there might not be charts of IMPORTANT moments in a person's life that are "astrologically relevant". The only problem with this is that after a few of these charts, the symbolism begins to implode on itself. For example, once you get three or four neptunes spread out over time...you're *bound* to havesomething squaring it most of the time.

Of course, some of us walk around most of the time as if we WERE in a fog...

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Date: Tue, 6 May 1997 23:56:46 PST
From: Aphrodette North
Subject: Re: Exegesis Digest V2 #21

Hi Fran..

It has always been my theory that we are in a time continuum... Birthing and deathing are continuous processes in existence. Having delineated charts on many twins and a couple sets of triplets - i have to say that in a few of these cases - the time descrepancy proved very valuable ! Even so much as to alter the decanate of the rise !!

Each seedling tends to flower in it's own tender moment.

I agree.

Smiles, Aphrodette

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Date: Tue, 06 May 1997 08:37:45 -0400
From: Roger L. Satterlee
Subject: Re: Exegesis Digest V2 #21

On: Sun, 4 May 1997 23:19:14 +0000 "Francis G. Kostella" Wrote:

>Subject: PTSB: yea or nay? I say nay...
>Message-Id: <199705050320.XAA00220@doit.pgh.net>
>
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>Proposition: Since PTSB (Ptolemy's Theory of Seeds and Beginnings)
>does not apply to every instance of chart-making, and since PTSB
>otherwise does not gain astrology ANY advantage whatsoever, we
>should toss PTSB out of any theory of astrology.
>
>How does that strike people?

Rog comments:

I've never accepted anything which doesn't serve as a means to describe my own experiences. Whatever anyone calls the phenomenon, tropical natal charts seem to indicate that birthtime points to a seed-like pattern with lifelong persistence.

As to other forms of charts, they seem an irrational confounding which enables one's human intuition by default...more or less a means to disable the habits of willed, logical thought patterns more characteristic of waking consciousness and its social conventions. It would also appear that if a more traditional approach loses a certain mystifying novelty which stimulates the creativity of the astrologist bent on making predictions, s/he will dream up an individual variation which allows the unconscious mind to coordinate its non-verbal perceptions and the more 'instinctive' comprehension of nuance--the oracular function I suppose.

Rog

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