Exegesis Volume 07 Issue #102

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From: "Jan Sar"
Subject: [e] Re: exegesis Digest V7 #100

Exegesis Digest Fri, 08 Nov 2002

From: "Jan Sar"
Subject: [e] Re: exegesis Digest V7 #100
Date: Fri, 08 Nov 2002 17:13:22 +0000

... It is nice that this time I may fully agree with you Patrice. This is the common and sad reality that all astrologers who donít want to jump on the bandwagon have to work in privacy or in small-secluded groups. There is a characteristic lack of exchange of information and a lack of willingness to share experiences. We may hope that some new developments, such as Keplerís College, may eventually bring a new breed of astrologers. Jan-Sar

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 > >From: Listar
 > >Reply-To: Exegesis List
 > >To: exegesis digest users
 > >Subject: exegesis Digest V7 #100
 > >Date: Thu, 07 Nov 2002 02:00:01 -0500 (EST)
 > >
 > >exegesis Digest Wed, 06 Nov 2002 Volume: 07 Issue: 100
 > >
 > >In This Issue:
 > >#1: From: Patrice Guinard
 > >Subject: [e] Astrology Conferences: the Circus
 > >
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 > >
 > >Date: Wed, 06 Nov 2002 13:32:44 +0100
 > >From: Patrice Guinard
 > >Subject: [e] Astrology Conferences: the Circus
 > >
 > >This mail has been written for ISAR's International Newsletter &
 > >effectively appeared in Vol. 204-a (Nov 6, 2002) in a truncated version.
 > >Please, find below the entire version. Hope it will be of some interest
 > >for Exegesis members.
 > >
 > >Patrice
 > >
 > >
 > >---------------------------------
 > >
 > >from Patrice Guinard Ph. D., Paris
 > >& Shelley Jordan, Madison, Wisconsin
 > >
 > >We have to agree with the recent postings of Blake Finley and Bill
 > >Mayer, as we observe with some amusement the pathetically defensive
 > >kneejerk reactions that they have provoked. It is evident that not only
 > >numbers of young people, but also those of all ages, are either unable
 > >or unwilling to attend such grandiose and expensive conferences. Many
 > >are simply not interested in participating in what tend to be in
 > >numerous cases the summer re-runs of the tedious and unimaginatively
 > >redundant conferences of years gone by.
 > >
 > >It is well-known that a highly rigid cadre of antiquated and incompetent
 > >true believers is controlling most everything in today's prevailing and
 > >torpid popular astrology scene. Not only are new points of view and
 > >fresh perspectives unwelcome at contemporary astrological conferences,
 > >but attendees are force-fed the same old boring and static recycled
 > >material.
 > >
 > >Anyone expressing any creative or original ideas is either shunned as a
 > >heretic or shamed into silence. It is the same situation everywhere, in
 > >the U.S., in the U.K., in France...
 > >
 > >We would add that the U.S. community may have a curious image of what
 > >constitutes astrology in France, just by noting the "French" astrologers
 > >engaged at the next conference: Lynn Bell, an American who is hardly
 > >known in France (by the way, we have nothing against this individual),
 > >and pop media astrologer, E. Teissier.
 > >
 > >It must be asked if any kind of serious research at all is ever proposed
 > >or discussed at these gatherings, which tend more to resemble in their
 > >mentality a hybridization of the standard backwoods fundamentalist
 > >revival meeting crossed with a senior citizens' bingo game, rather than
 > >serious assemblies which might foster any kind of genuine intellectual
 > >inquiry. This pertains not only to ISAR, but to all conferences of which
 > >we are aware. We submit that the prevailing astrological community (if
 > >such a group can really be said to exist beyond that
 > >which provides a limited social identity for a small, often culturally
 > >disenfranchised minority of practitioners and students) is very far away
 > >from the requirements necessary to engender any kind of scientific or
 > >intellectual RESEARCH, whether in a conference format or in any kind of
 > >established learning environment.
 > >
 > >For such a focused and productive discourse to ever, in fact, take root
 > >in any fertile soil, would require a direct confrontation with the
 > >doctrinal mentality of the self-appointed Astrological Inquisition
 > >which, in its narrow and rigid fashion forbids any challenges to the
 > >arthritic, even intellectually atavistic tendencies of an orthodox
 > >astrology. Any discipline which forbids discourse in which people agree
 > >to disagree for the sake of a lively exchange and for expansion of
 > >knowlege is inexorably doomed to the state of stuperous calcification in
 > >which we see today's astrology lingering.
 > >
 > >Patrice Guinard, Director of CURA
 > >Shelley Jordan, Chief Book Reviewer: CURA
 > >
 > >
 > >------------------------------
 > >
 > >End of exegesis Digest V7 #100
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