Exegesis Volume 07 Issue #007

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From: "Roger L. Satterlee"
Subject: [e] Re: exegesis Digest V7 #6

Exegesis Digest Thu, 24 Jan 2002

From: "Roger L. Satterlee"
Subject: [e] Re: exegesis Digest V7 #6
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2002 12:05:55 -0500

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From: "Listar"
To: "exegesis digest users" Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2002 2:00 AM
Subject: exegesis Digest V7 #6

Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2002 09:35:41 +0100
From: L:Smerillo
Subject: [exegesis] Re: exegesis Digest V7 #5

Listar [Rog] wrote:
 > >>So, did Homer have natal Pluto in Taurus, and is this why the
 > >destruction
 > >>(eating) of Helios' cattle is stated by the writer as the *reason* gods
 > >>torment Odysseus...:)?
 > >
 > >Two difficult questions if not rhetorical.

Sorry, "Homer" is used a description short hand adjective to describe the multiple bards who composed the Iliad and Od. and quite a number of other lost oral-musical poems, over many generations. The time period could run from 1200 to 600 BCE.

So such speculations as to the chart of Homer are rather inappropriate.


Lorenzo Smerillo

Hi Lorenzo, Your are right as rain of course....so let's work on the much better defined Plato next time...:)

As to Homer, (and the bulk of humanity) we cannot be certain how much of the bards' legacy, of the time period you mention, was filtered out, or over-emphasized, by an editorializing, perhaps unconsciously self-indulgent fellow, who created an "Odysseus," and perhaps a tale or two, which may indeed mirror Homer's *natal chart biases* for what-goes-with-what. The repetition of a term like, "Black Ships." for instance, can be both historically correct *and* a personal emphasis of one descriptive detail over another which was equally available, or even a detail which was once more predominant and more traditionally characteristic to the mind of one's predecessors. (For instance who nowadays cares if Scott Fitzgerald was or was not gay?) Another phenomenon which amazes me about people in general is that singers of songs would rather get caught in an act of marital infidelity than be caught being unfaithful to an authoritative traditional lyric...:)

Anyway, due to my experiences I'm guessing that boats and ships, as mental images and sentiments, most often carry the natal Moon's, ah...scent? And, the color black is of course very Saturn linked. Here's the example from me previous post now put to a more collective task. Waterhouse the painter has a natal opposition of Moon and Saturn, like my daughter who finds "herself" in some focal essence(?) of the painting:


The Painter: http://www.geocities.com/pedantus/waterhou.gif

The Moon opposite Saturn could very likely be a natal property/quality of whoever Homer is, even he is in fact more like a corporation --some collective creature, which propagates the fingerprint/portrait of some spiritually photographed cosmic moment, an apparently important image with a permanent place of honor in the human family album.

In truth, the only real problem I have at present is the messy business of trying to determine if I am "hearing" the Moon opposite Saturn, or either the Moon conjunct or square Saturn. I do believe Home borrowed much, and kept the original stories' details more or less accurately, because one story will contradict another at times, in terms of what aspects we could say we are "hearing". And, some are uncannily consistent; like men clinging to the belly of the sheep to escape the cave of the Cyclops, and men hidden in the belly of wooden horse to enter Troy. In either case we have giant-ism of some sort involved and an enemy's home as the venue. So could we be hearing natal Jupiter (of both Horses and Giants) in the sign Cancer ? Well, here's an interesting chart possibility:

http://www.astro.com/cgi-bin/atlw3/chart.cgi?rs=3;btyp=w2gw;lang=e;cid=7wiaaaa 23195-s981377186&nhor=3

Thanks, Rog


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